so long. What do you think broadway looks like when it's all back to normal again. >> It's going take a while I think for it to be all about the you know the in america doing just that and you know we've got to start live performances at the very earliest basically to now so. It keeps getting pushed and that's really did disappointing obviously doing a play on broadway this past year and that obviously got postponed. But you know I to feel like entertainers and people who work in the arts are essential workers. I hoping that they can get back to work as soon as possible I am fortunate to have made my living both. On stage and in film so I I you know case saving money for the possible of years, but every my heart goes out to all my friends in new who you know look for the checks. That work on broadway and being a lot. Basically they're they're so cute. They're not able to to do or they know how to do it in this tree has their lives. It's really heartbreaking. >> It's absolutely heartbreaking but so well said just can't wait for broadway to get back out there I tyler ferguson, thank you so much for joining us such a pleasure have you on that coming up next skies between 1000 new analysis is let as lending credence to joe biden's plans offer some free students free tuition to public college. We'll spea the seat a short topical stories to help explain the ball around us. >> Welcome back to between bells as the cost of higher education continues to rise around the country. The joe biden campaign is putting forth a potential solution tuition-free public college for all families with incomes below $125,000. The proposal is estimated to cost nearly 50 billion dollars in just the first year. But according to a new analysis from georgetown university, the plan will actually end up paying for itself within the next decade. Joining us now to explain is the head of the department which released this analysis doctor anthony carnevale professor and director of the georgetown university center on education and the workforce, professor great to have you with us on the show today so explain how will the 50 billion dollar price tag end up paying for itself in 10 years. >> Because in the really since the 1980's, the. But the good jobs jobs and 55 grand a year at a minimum. >> Go to people who had some college only about 20% of jobs and end up paying well. Go to high school graduates